Who Said That?

Who said that?

"Christ offers us the gift of salvation, and he will not go back on his word. But you and I are entirely capable of going back on our word by abandoning Christ and thereby forfeiting his gift of salvation . . . . Let's consider Saint John's . . . statement: No one can snatch out of Christ's hand those who whom the Father has given him. No external power is capable of wresting us out of Christ's loving embrace (Romans 8:28-29); but you can do it, if you decide to willfully rebel against God through mortal sin (1 John 5:16-17). If you die unrepentant in that state, you will have lost your salvation because you will have, in effect, snatched yourself out of Christ's hand."

OK, take a stab . . . Put your guess in the comments below. No google searches, please!

Update on Tuesday, January 2, 2007 at 11:05AM by Kim Riddlebarger

These truly remarkable words of will-worship come from Catholic apologist Patrick Madrid.  For those of you who guessed that these words came from an Arminian theologian, heed well the warnings of Toplady and others, that Rome and many Arminians, use the same biblical texts in the same way to attack monergism.

Comments

[Mike Ratliff]

Isn't this Cambellite theology. This sounds just like a Church of Christ or Christian Church preacher to me. How about Cambell himself?

[Mike Ratliff]

Okay, I cheated and now I know who it is. Shudda known. :-)

[lars]

This sure sounds like Roman Catholicism. Using the term "mortal" sin as opposed to "venial" sin is part of their theology. I don't know who specifically, but it is a gerneral position they hold. What a shame.

[an individual]

Has to be a Catholic... Peter Kreeft?

[Chris Sherman]

Someone with a small God. I don't have a guess, too many possibilities and it's probably none of them. Probably someone with a big ego or big hair at least.

[Dana]

I know it's not Hal Lindsey even though he called himself a "Cathopresbymethobaptistarian" or something like that. When I used to attend his church he used to preach on this topic a lot and would always emphasize that Jesus said no one could snatch us out of his hand and then ask, "Are you a someone? Then not even you could snatch yourself out of his hand." He had quite the way with words.

The quote seems like a very Baptist thing to say. The language sounds almost 19th century in style but I don't have a guess who it could be. No one mentioned Billy Sunday yet.

Oh! What about Jimmy Swaggart? I guess that'd be a guess.

[pilgrim]

turmeric has a good point--as others have stated--my guess would be a Roman Catholic who converted from a lukewarm Protestantism, and has an axe to grind...

So the possibilities, while not endless, are too large to decide.
(And I picked Scott Hahn for a previous one--but I don't think this is Hahn--but could be one of his cronies.)

Either that or somebody who has James White on their nasty list.

[BRIAN DAVILLA]

SOUNDS VERY FINNEY-ISH!

[School of the Solitary Place]

While this might be Scott Hahn, it sounds an awful lot like Karl Keating, the Roman Catholic apologist who heads up Catholic Answers.

[timinator]

Sounds like Finney

[Fresnoid]

Waaren/Graham/Falwell...I just made myself sick !!

[Fresnoid]

FYI...Grant Jeffrey knows where the Ark Of The Coveneant Is...send him some $$$ and hell hook you up !!

["lee n. field"]

"Grant Jeffrey knows where the Ark Of The Coveneant Is"

Is that the very same ark of the covenant of which it is said " It shall not come to mind or be remembered or missed; it shall not be made again." ?

[Joe]

Am I the only person realizing that I am not as well read as I thought I was?

[pilgrim]

In response to "School of the Soliatry Place"--
I would think Keating would have James White on his "nasty list"

But the wording doesn't quite souund like Keating.

[Robert Mosley]

This is not fair. It could be one of hundreds of Lutherans. Every Lutheran knows that nothing can take you out of God's hand, but you can jump. :-)

I guess Frances Pieper

[pilgrim]

Okay--not a convert to RCism--but he sure talks like one--maybe it's the RC converts he hangs out with...