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Jul232007

My Identity Crisis

Limburg%20flag.jpgThose of you who know me, know that I've always considered myself a proud German.  I sure have a Germanic temperament.  I've long thought of myself as one of the few Germans in a federation of men, most of whom are of Dutch ancestry (the URCNA).

Ten years or so, ago I became interested in family history.  Over time, doubt started creeping in about my German ancestry as the evidence began to point away from Germany (even the Palatinate, i.e., the region around Heidelberg) toward Switzerland and those Reformed families, who, as refuges from Roman Catholic persecution, relocated to the Alsace along the Rhine in the 1680's.  I could live with that.  My family might have lived in France, but they were not French, they didn't even speak French at first, and they liked France so much that within a generation at least one of them had emigrated to America.

In genealogical research, the creed is document, document, document.  Here's what I know for sure.  The first of my kin in America was one Christian Redelsberger, who arrived in Philadelphia on September 29, 1733 (Click here: Riddleblog - Old Family Photos and Documents - chrrsig.bmp).  The vessel which brought him sailed from Rotterdam six weeks before. 

I also know that Christian Redelsberger moved to South Carolina in 1742 and that he was one of the founders of the "Dissenting Protestant Church" (whose confessional documents were the Walloon [Belgic] Confession, the First Helvetic Confession and the Augsburg Confession of 1540).  The founders of the Dissenting Protestant Church didn't much like the pietists among the Swiss Reformed, nor did they like the very anti-Reformed Lutherans, who happened to live just to south (across the Savannah River, in Georgia, of all places).

It always troubled me that Christian would choose the Walloon confession.  If he were a Palatine, he'd be a Heidelberger.  If he were Swiss Reformed, he'd be a Helvetic man.  One of the other founders of the Dissenting Protestant Church was Swiss, which explains the use of the First Helvetic Confession.  The fact that they lived among mostly Swiss and Germans (in the Saxe-Gotha region of South Carolina!), probably explains the use of the Augsburg Confession.

Then there's the surname.  People often stumble over "Riddlebarger," but that is the highly anglicized version!  To date, I have found 51 different spellings for Christian's surname in PA and SC.  Many have a "Rhetels," "Rhedels" or "Ricktels" variant.  Since people recorded Christian's surname phonetically in public documents, we don't know what it was originally.  We just know how it sounded to the English ear.

That leads to my identity crisis.  In a moment of writer's block, I did a quick google search for "Riddelsperger" (the way Christian's son John spelled his name) and to my amazement got a hit for a Christian "Retlispergh" (and a number of other obvious family members) in a European church register in 1703.  I'm not yet sure this is our guy or not--it needs to be documented, which means looking through rolls of microfilm of church registers and going blind in the process--but for a whole bunch of reasons I won't bore you with, this is the first time I have ever had a concrete lead on my ancestors in Europe.  This may well be the real deal.  We'll see . . . document, document, document.

Here's the catch.  The name appears in a church register (Catholic) in Broekhuizen.  Broekhuizen is in the province of Limburg in what is now the Netherlands . . .  OK, you can stop laughing!

The problem is that if this is where Christian's ancestors lived before he set sail to the New World from Rotterdam in 1733, the region was not under control of the Dutch at the time, but a mixture of German, Walloon, French and who knows what else.  Broekhuizen is but a couple of miles from the modern border with Germany.  Between 1600-1800, the region was ruled at various times by Spain, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and Austria.

To add to the difficulty of documentation, Limburg even has its own dialect ("Limburgish" and no, I am not kidding) which is recognized by the EU as an official European dialect!  Some combination of German and Limburgish might explain the odd spelling of our surname (it is probably not German), as well as Christian's otherwise strange allegiance to the Walloon Confession.

Now comes the crisis--how am I to behave if I am a Limburger?  I know what Germans do, but what about Limburgers?  Will I have to learn Limburgish?  I have never even met another Limburger . . .  Have you?

I feel lost and confused . . . but I will find some way to carry on . . .

Reader Comments (22)

The only Limburger I know is the smelly cheese found in the deli section of my supermarket
July 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles S
Kurschner (Kürschner) <-- German!
July 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kurschner
....what was that I said about endless geneologies?
July 23, 2007 | Unregistered Commentertimothy
Charles beat me to the crack about limburger cheese. . . sigh. . .

;)
July 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew Compton
"My family might have lived in France, but they were not French, they didn't even speak French at first, and they liked France so much that within a generation at least one of them had emigrated to America."

I'm not French. NOT. FRENCH. OK?

Relax, Pastor, nobody's accusing you of anything. Heh.
July 23, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterwalt
Are Limburgers "huggie-touchie-feelie" types?

Do you like Limburger cheese?

Disturbing questions, I know...
July 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRobin
Kim
You might be Welsh,note that your name spelled backwards really looks Gallic
'Regrabelddir'. Wait until Carl Trueman gets wind of this.
July 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterGLW Johnson
Note to all: Limburger Cheese is a German product from the Limburg region of Germany. I believe that's a little north of Mainz on Autobahn 3, and I passed through there often when serving in the US Army.

I was stationed in the Limburg region of The Netherlands (Schinnen). Dutch people refer to that section of their country as "the land of the soft G" (land van de zachte G) because they pronounce it as a very soft germanic "ch," at least in South Limburg. That part of The Netherlands is very picturesque, with the only real hills in the whole country. It serves as a prime tourist destination, too.

However, Broekhuizen is up northern Limburg, the flat, sandy farming region of the Maas Valley. The biggest towns nearby are Venray and Venlo. I can't pull up a specific memory of the place, but I know I passed through, since I rode my bicycle, and volksmarched, all over that area repeatedly over the years. There are numerous little forest preserves, too.

If that's your family home, I know the geography quite well, along with being familiar with the language.
July 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterEd Hurst
perhaps the answer to your personal crisis, like all such things, can be found in food. go out to your grill and hover over some good, red meat; you probably make a killer kimburger.

a good confessionalist knows the difference a vowel can make. but how about the difference a consonant can?

zrim
July 24, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterzrim
This has got me thinking. Can anyone recommend a good resource on how to get started with doing family history?

Thanks...
July 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJoeW
Hope this helps...

After a massive amount of research, I'm quite sure that I've solved our ID crisis, and that you must be:

Kim(berly) Riddl(e)(l)e(l)s(-)p(b)u(e)(a)rger. Or something like that.

(Yes, these ancestors who have already come to life and are already reigning with Christ in the millennium. And, ah yes, I'm quite sure you're not the "man of sin" - either in Rom. 7 or in II Thes. 2.)

We'll look forward to the fuuulll and korrekt speling of your name in your next book. I hope Baker/IVP/whatever has a good time with it.

Now go have a nice CHEESEbu(e)rger; just be sure it's Swiss and not that really smelly stuff.
July 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterWayne Rohde
Augsburg Confession 1540? Definitely altered!
July 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie
Guten Tag! Wie geht es ienen? Sprechen Sie Deutsch?
July 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAlberto
Essen Sie Limburger?
July 25, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterturmeric
Limburg is one of the neatest provinces in the Netherlands. The people living there are very friendly and hospitable. A specialty of the area is the so called "Limburgse Vlaai" which is a kind of pastry cake base with a thick layer of jam and cream. Yummy!
No reason at all to be ashamed to be a Limburger, apart from the fact that the number of protestants living there is very very small.
July 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJim K
And of course, the ironic thing is that the people who gave you your last name make up only the tiniest fraction of who you are. :-) My last name comes from some Ulster Irish, but I've got much more English and French in me than Irish or Scottish. :-)
July 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPat
Well, I am 1/4 Irish, 1/4 Russian Jew, part Swiss, part German(Pennsylvania Duetcsh). I have Anabaptist/Mennonite ancestors and no clue about the Jewish heritage since my grandfather's family disowned him for marrying an Irish Catholic and you think you have an identity crisis? Oh and my wife is 1/2 Sicilian and 1/2 German, so my kids are sometimes confused and other times identify with the heritage of their choice. Personally I usually go with the Irish part since I like the music.



July 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChris Sherman
I sympathize. I've been researching my family and am stuck at 1802. I don't know where we came from or how we got here. At least I know where I'm going.
July 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLarry Thompson
Kim,

Look at the bright side. At least now you can disassociate yourself from those who are the best in the world in three things:

1. Bad theology
2. Bad philosophy
3. Getting their butts kicked in war
July 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterGuido de Bresil
Kim, here's help!

http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/ydna_intro_howto.php

It's boring knowing about our ultimate ancestors - and much more fun to discover the gory details of each own's redemptive history in finer detail.

Someday science may prove what Christians already know...
July 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRobin

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