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Apr202008

Who Said That?

question%20mark.jpgA noted pro-choice Catholic had this to say:  "I think the church can only do what it believes and I respect that.  [But]  I can't do anything other than what I believe. . . . I always take Communion when I go to church, and I go to church regularly. . . . God gave us all a free will and a responsibility to be accountable and to live up to our responsibilities, and that's how I see it. . . . The church sees it another way."

Who said that?  No google searches or cheating.  Leave your guess in the comments section below. 

Reader Comments (17)

John Kerry?
April 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermax
Nancy Pelosi.

She kissed the pope's ring last week. Guess that doesn't mean what it used to.
April 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJack's Pipe
Sounds like Nancy Pelosi.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMark
I would have to go with Kerry.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterChris
The statement is too sophisticated for John Kerry. Must be Nancy P.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRaymond Coffey
What's his/her politics have to do with the comment? Were the latter in context of the former or something?

(I'd say it's Kerry.)
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterZrim
Nancy Pelosi. I cracked up when I read her comments. Obviously she doesn't note the contradiction here: her church speaks authoritatively rather than suggestively. And she is a government official.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterChris Malamisuro
". . .that's how I see it. . . . The church sees it another way." Certainly, the statement doesn't pertain to disagreements about "free will", responsibility and accountability, although that would make for a much more interesting read!

I'll guess Nancy P. as I've heard less lately from Kerry and nothing from Teddy.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
They may think they're Catholics but in realty they're "soul liberty" Baptists. For better or worse.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPB
PB:

You're too theologically curious to remain a Baptist!!!!
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLLOYD
Assuming it's either Kerry or Pelosi, these kinds of things have left me completely confused lately. If these people don't agree with the Roman view on abortion (which happens to be the scriptural one), then why don't they just leave that church for one where anything goes (I could name a few denominations at this point, but I think I'll leave well enough alone).

Why are people always trying to change the traditional, confessional, well-structured institutions to fit their own whims? Why can't they just leave them and go someplace else? Another example of this has to do with worship styles. Maybe it's because someone married into a church with traditional worship, I don't know, but the next thing you know they're trying to railroad in charismatic stuff. It's not like there's any lack of those kinds of churches - all they have to do is join the Pentecostal down the street. But, no, they've got bring everyone else down to their same level. I don't get it.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGeorge
Lloyd, I've already had a "Scottish revival" with folks leaving because they can't stomach the Doctrines of Grace! Properly construed, "soul liberty" allows theological curiousity!
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPB
Must be Nancy, but I thought Tony Blair would also fit it........lol
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterplw
Before I saw all of the other comments, I was guessing it had to be Pelosi! She's a bad, bad Roman Catholic (among other things...).
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterhb
No doubt. It sounds like Nancy. It has to be Nancy or someone mascurading as her.
April 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAllen Montgomery
"If these people don't agree with the Roman view on abortion (which happens to be the scriptural one), then why don't they just leave that church for one where anything goes?"

Maybe because they aren't quite the same kind of consumeristic as most Protestants? As troublesome as it may be, Cafeteria Catholics seem another breed from consumeristic Prot's. I think it is a bit more complicated than that.

I guess the Roman view (and thus scriptural one) on abortion is this: "Agree with the Church's politics as it speaks out of turn on matters not in her jurisdiction as you go about your duties as either a private citizen or public servant or be erroneously punished."

Telling members of the Church what they may/not do with their own bodies is one thing, telling them how to vote or go about statecraft is another. Put yet another mark in the Geneva's column and another strike in for Rome.
April 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterZrim
Zrim-

Yes, I agree that it's much more complicated than "cafeteria" Catholics being just another variation of Protestant "consumerists." There's a defiance there that seems to go beyond blindly following Rome as did their ancestors. I recall getting involved in a discussion about what the scriptures had to say about a particular issue with a young lady in our office about 15 years ago. When I had backed her into a sort of theological corner, she simply dismissed the entire matter by denouncing the scriptures as just a collection of unverifiable writings garnered together by disparate groups who were after their own interests.

Well...when you have that kind of view of the scriptures I guess that anything goes. I marvel, for example, how areas of the Northeastern U.S., particularly states like Massachusetts, can be so heavily Catholic and yet so liberal at the same time. The pope certainly does have his work cut out for him if it is his ambition to corral these people back into traditional, confessional Catholicism (if it ever existed in the first place).
April 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGeorge

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