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Who Said That?






"Our loss is gain
In wisdom and in skill
To future dates and other smiles
And so we send into the
Chain of all enduring time
Our heritage
Our hope
our friend.
Goodbye [deceased].
Your people thank you for
having lived.
Earth is better for your having lived.
Men and women are children
are alive today
Because you lived.
We thank you for coming to us.
We do not contest your right
to go away.
Your debts are paid.
This chapter of thy life is shut.
Go, now, dear [deceased] and live
once more
In happier time and place."

OK, you know the drill.  Who said that?  Please, no google searches or cheating.  Leave your guesses in the comments section. 

Reader Comments (13)

It sounds Episcopalian.
December 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRobin
Probably a new age religious group, Christian Science, Scientology. Could it even be an Emergent funeral service?
December 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles S.
I'll go with Scientology. I use to work with a bunch of them for over 5 years. Sounds like something they would say.

"Debts Paid" - they have a strong sense of paying ones own debts. It's part of their 'ethics'
"Men and women are children" - Scientology believes that children are more enlightened than adults.
"live once more" - Reincarnation, Yup, they believe that.
"To future dates and other smiles" - Ditto.
"In happier time and place" - Scientology believes Earth is one of the bad places to live.
"Earth is better for your having lived" - A dedicated Scientologist believes it's his job to 'Clear' the world. In their theology a Clear is someone who has started to become a Scientologist. Jesus was Clear, but not quite (per LRH).
"We do not contest your right to go away." - Sucide is perfectly ok in Scientology. LRH committed sucide
"And so we send into the Chain of all enduring time" - Matter, Energy, Space, Time. MEST, the 4 elements of the world according to a scientologyst. People's spirits are made up of Energy (they are gnostics). The matter of our bodies holds us down into MEST. When someone dies they leave Matter behind and their energy(spirit) is all that is left to travel through time. Where at somepoint it will decide to renter MEST by aquiring more Matter.
December 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterNathaniel Stephenson
Lord Hallmark of Card? No, it's addressed *to* the deceased.

Someone who thinks you can stick a "thy" in the middle of a poem addressing a person with "you", evidently.
December 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPhil Walker
I googled it. Don't get sued!
December 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJeremy Felden
Rob Bell
December 10, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterwalt
(Speaking of Bell, I keep forgetting I have such a celebrity in my backyard here in Grandville. TIME magazine just made reference to his being the next Billy Graham. I guess I need to get over to the Grandville Mall for more than just a cookie and a pair of pants. Funny how Bell has found his place amongst the legions of consumerism.)

Sorry about that...uh, I am with Robin on this one. I was raised by an unobservant Episcy who tried to return to his roots later post-60's. Sounds kind of familiar...

December 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterZrim
>It sounds Episcopagan.

I'm guessing this would >not< be the 1928 Book of Common Prayer? :-).

Sounds a little too pagan even for them.
December 11, 2007 | Unregistered Commenter"lee n. field"

You live in grandville? You wouldn't happen to know a Jason Kuiper would you? Sorry Mr. Riddlebarger for playing Dutch Bingo on your blog.
While I'm here I might as well guess. Ummmm....I'm going to go with those who think scientology. Although an emergent funeral sservice probably is not too far off.
December 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSteven Carr

I inherited my faithful Episcopalian grandmother's prayerbook (since I am the "religious one" who gets a cross stitched into his Xmas stocking in awkward efforts to...whatever, I don't know). No, you won't find as much in the prayerbook as on the lips of those who may be more passive heirs than deliberate students of its slide into Modern Liberalism. Still, something tells me this is a wrong guess.

(Steven, that's like asking Paco if he knows Esteban Rafael Pinta just because he's from south of the border[!]. I know few Jason's and even more Kuiper's, but no Jason Kuiper.)

December 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterZrim
Actually, Zrim, having lived in Grand Rapids myself, I've found that the odds of knowing someone, especially a man like Jason Kuiper, are far, far better there than south of the border. Your analogy simply fails.
So you don't know him. Oh well, I thought I would try.
December 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSteven Carr

I was really just making a joke about how many Dutch there are in GRusalem is like how many Hispanic folk are south of the border (I think something got lost in translation here). Something tells me there are are fewer Kuipers in Mexico than GR. You are right, though. I do know people.

December 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterZrim
John Travolta said that. Maybe.

Steven and Zrim,

'Dutch Bingo' is done with congregations, not cities.

"You go to Calvin CRC? Do you know_______?"

"Yes I do, we just went bowling together. So you go to Bethel URC, do you know ________?"

"You bet I do, she's so nice..."

"Great." Awkward pause. "So see ya later."

December 13, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRick B.

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