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Who Said That?

"This belief and endeavor is the key to unity and the constructive interaction among nations, countries, the people of the world and all the true justice-seekers.  Without any doubt, the Promised One who is the ultimate Savior, together with Jesus Christ and other holy Saviors, will come.  In the company of all believers, justice-seekers and benefactors, he will establish a bright future and fill the world with justice and beauty. This is the promise of God; therefore it will be fulfilled.  Let's play a part in the fulfillment of all this glory and beauty. I wish for a bright future for all human beings and the dawn of the liberation of and freedom for all humans, and the rule of love and affection all around the world, as well as the elimination of oppression, hatred and violence.  A wish which I expect will be realized in the near future."

Please leave your guess in the comments section below.  Please no cheating or google searches!

Reader Comments (27)

Wild guess: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

He believes in an end-time scenario, Jesus Christ as an enlightened being of some kind, and he stresses (bizarrely) justice.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRobert Widdowson
Deepak Chopra? That's the kind of "everything's sunshine and puppies" statement I'd expect from him...
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCoyle
Some Anglican Bishop
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLeon Cunningham
Say what?????? This is the kind of "eclectic" thinking which tries to mesh competing views of reality into one with no regard for logic, common sense or truth which can be systemitized into a coherent whole.
It takes differing metaphysical views and spiritualizes them with flowery languange and non-sense and then wraps it into a politcal agenda. It is the spirit of the times and a lot of the Arminian, revivalist and dispensational Churches are buying into it because of the theological confusion which runs rampant in the culture and the Church. Even though some of these Churches resist new-age thinking but do so in an unconvincing way.

Talk of a Promised One means it is either from some Jewish philosopher or theologian or I have heard some new age philospers talk of a promised metaphysician who will unify humanity with a philosophy similiar to a Plotinus like monistic One. Some of the aggressive new atheists will accept this type of spirituality but continue to lamblast Christianity. Like I have said before, only reformational theology with a logically sound and rational apologetic can refute this non-sense. But, who will listen when our minds are saturated and bombarded by this stuff and many still give credence to what they say. We need to quite listening to them and start fighting them. There are a couple quotes that I came across recently that are appropriate here. One is from Martin Luther and the other from B.B. Warfield. I am running out of time here- I have to get to work. Perhaps I will post them later.

As far as a guess goes- it could be a number of different people which we hear on Oprah. How about this- it is the Anti-Christ spirit whispering into the ears of those who know not how to resist it.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Yeazel
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJN
facetiously, Brian McLaren

Doesn't sound Muslim. Ba'hai, perhaps.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenter"lee n. field"
I would say one of the founding fathers like Jefferson or Franklin or some diest like that.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMerritt
How about that Islamic "Joel Osteen"? Amr Khaled
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
Earl Woods.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBruce S
This is a tough guess would be Deepak Chopra or the Dalai Lama.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKen Rapoza
Earl Woods- there we go. Didn't he believe that Tiger would not only be the greatest golfer ever but also would be a mover and a shaker in the political realm when his golfing career was over. Maybe Tiger and the Zen-Master Phil Jackson will team up in a future political convention. They can start a new political party which synthesizes gnosticism, world unity and peace with an international economic policy which promises prosperity to everyone. They will get all the world renowned athletes like Michal Jordan, Mohamed Ali and Bill Bradley (I might have his name wrong- the New York Knick who played with Jackson) to provide the funding for the new party. ESPN will then jump on the bandwagon and take over the news industry and bombard us with short segment video clips during the Super Bowl, NCAA basketball tournament and other highly watched sporting events. Oh yeah, and Oprah will be the spiritual matriarch who gets all the glory and money which she donates back to the political cause. What a scenario!!!
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Yeazel
Dali Lama
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdsanger
I would say Brian Mc Laren, but this quote is lacking Mc Larens phrase "dream of God" that he uses to replace the phrase "Kingdom of God". Dream sounds more comfy. Since that is missing I would guess President Tom of Iran or Jim Wallis.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPaul C. Quillman
Doesn't this all go back to the two-kingdom theology issue. The aggressive new atheists are angry at evangelicals getting into politics and rightly so. However, they have no problem with the new age spirituality influencing Obama or other spiritual guru's who spout off about political issues. Isn't it best to let those who have deeply imbibed on the American political heritage and who are well versed in political theory to govern our nation. Politics is a fairly complex vocation which needs years of training and experience to get good at. Let us learn how to recognize and vote these people into office and let's not let our theological beliefs have much bearing on political issues expect that we learn more about two-kingdom theology.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Yeazel
Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson,
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterreg
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersarah
Halle Berry on Obama?
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRobertW
I am going to post those quotes from Luther and B.B. Warfield. I hope they provoke some people to comment further but it doesn't seem like the regular bloggers are that interested in this weeks quote. Or else they are busy with other matters of more pressing concern. Anyways, here goes- I will start with Luther: " If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I am professing Christ. Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is proved, and to be steady on all the battlefield besides, is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point."

Whoever believes that Lutheranism is Christianity lite knows not what he is talking about. This is probably one of the most challenging quotes I have ever read. One that should motivate us to dig into the best thinking in the culture and the Church and then learn how to analyze it theologically within the Church traditions we have chosen to attend.

Now the Warfield quote which I found in Dr. Kim's phd thesis on B.B. Warfield: "But we are arguing that Apologetics has its part to play in the Christianizing of the world: and that this part is not a small part: nor is it merely a subsidiary or defensive part- as if its one end were to protect an isolated body of Christians from annoyance from the surrounding world. It has a primary part to play and a conquering part............In the face of the world, with its opposing points of view and its tremendous energy of thought and incredible fertility in attack and defense, Christianity must think through and organize itself, not defense merely, but assault. It has been placed in the world to reason its way to the dominion of the world. And by reasoning it will gather to itself all its own. And by reasoning it will put its enemies under its feet."

Needless to say, this quote by Warfield generated much controversy about the role of reason in biblical faith. I think Dr. Kim's paper deals with this issue quite ably and convincingly in Warfield's defense.
September 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Yeazel
September 30, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRev. Z. Bartels
Come on lets stop this Bono stuff- LOL. I am getting a bad reputation on this site and I do not want that to happen. I draw a lot of strength and insight from the Riddleblog and enjoy the dialog here tremendously. You can actually talk about things that really matter and there are a lot of thoughtful views expressed. I hope I am not turning others off by my long winded remarks. I think this Bono stuff is funny but others may not.

I also liked that Earl Woods remark- that made me laugh out loud too. From what I know of Tiger Woods he is not an arrogant jerk though. I was once at a local watering hole that I go to frequently to watch the Bears, Bulls, White Sox and Cubs games and I sat by a guy who who was on the PGA tour but barely making it and he had Tiger Woods Cell phone number on his cell phone. Tiger makes himself accessible to all these guys and this guy was telling me how he is well liked by most of the golfers on tour. Of course, there is some jealousy and resentment among others but for the most part, from what this guy said he is well respected. I just wanted to add that little caveat. It does seem that Tiger is almost Messiah like according to ESPN etc. Kind of like many are making Obama out to be.
September 30, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Yeazel

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