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Saturday
Jan152011

Who Said That?

"Civic righteousness and the Kingdom of God are bound up in each other.  We are learning anew that Christ's commission to his followers is not primarily to increase the census of heaven, but to make down here a righteous society in which Christ's will be done, his kingdom come . . . . [T]o redeem society and to purify and protect government, are results directly expected from the preaching of the gospel and the Christian education of young people of this rising generation, and that, therefore, every wrong, public, private and social, retards the commission of the consummation of our King."

Leave your guess in the comments section below.  Please, no google searches or cheating.  Answer to follow with the next "who said that?"

Reader Comments (21)

Douglas Wilson
January 15, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCharles S
Apparently I have been misreading "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you".

A wild guess Michelle Bachman or Sarah Palin.
January 15, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterreg
Couldn't say, but it sounds like the writer had a really bad case of Postmillennialism.
January 15, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJerry K
"[T]o redeem society and to purify and protect government". Wow!
I don't know who said it, but it sounds scary to me.
The great commission is NOT about redeeming society and purifieng and protecting the government.
The next step will be to completely depend upon and worship the government.
And what is "civic righteousness"? Scripture says the absolute very best we can do is as filthy rags in the sight of God.
January 15, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRick
I'm not sure, without google. But I would say that the language is not modern usage. My guess would put it during the progressives early turn of the 20th century. Esp. the remark about "Christian education."
January 15, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRachel
Brian McLaren
January 16, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRandy Gill
NT Wright? I think I've heard him use the phrase "increase the census of heaven."
January 16, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterrev
Language sounds like some 19th or 20th century social gospel advocate("this rising generation" in particular seems like something that came out of the mouth of a smug modernist). Harry Emerson Fosdick?
January 16, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterPaul L.
John Hagee
January 16, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMerlin
Abraham Kuyper
January 17, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterdsanger
BB Warfield
January 17, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterTom Albrecht
dsanger, no, Kuyper said:

Does it follow, therefore, that the sooner we stop our observation of life the better, so that we can seek the rules of state polity outside life in Holy Scripture? This is how some mistakenly think that we reason…However, the opposite is true. Calvinism has never supported this untenable position but has always opposed it with might and main. A state polity that dismisses and scorns the observation of life and simply wishes to duplicate the situation of Israel, taking Holy Scripture as a complete code of Christian law for the state, would, according to the spiritual fathers of Calvinism, be the epitome of absurdity. Accordingly, in their opposition to Anabaptism as well as the Quakers, they expressed unreservedly their repugnance for this extremely dangerous and impractical theory.

If we considered the political life of the nations as something unholy, unclean and wrong in itself, it would lie outside of human nature. Then the state would have to be seen as a purely external means of compulsion, and every attempt to discover even a trace of God’s ordinances in our own nature would be absurd. Only special revelation would then be capable of imparting to us the standards for that external means of discipline. Wherever, thus, this special revelation is absent, as in the heathen worlds, nothing but sin and distortion would prevail, which would therefore not even be worth the trouble of our observation…However, if we open the works of Calvin, Bullinger, Beza and Marnix van St. Aldegonde, it becomes obvious that Calvinism consciously chooses sides against this viewpoint. The experience of the states of antiquity, the practical wisdom of their laws, and the deep insight of their statesmen and philosophers is held in esteem by these men, and these are cited in support of their own affirmations and consciously related to the ordinances of God. The earnest intent of the political life of many nations can be explained in terms of the principles of justice and morality that spoke in their consciences. They cannot be explained simply as blindness brought on by the Evil One; on the contrary, in the excellence of their political efforts we encounter a divine ray of light…

…with proper rights we contradict the argument that Holy Scripture should be seen as the source from which a knowledge of the best civil laws flow. The supporters of this potion talk as though after the Fall nature, human life, and history have ceased being a revelation of God and As though, with the closing of this book, another book, called Holy Scriptures, as opened for us. Calvinism has never defended this untenable position and will never acknowledge it as its own…We have refuted the notion that we entertain the foolish effort to patch together civil laws from Bible texts, and we have declared unconditionally that psychology, ethnology, history and statistics are also for us given which, by the light of God’s Word, must determine
January 17, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterZrim
the standards for the state polity.
January 17, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterZrim
Zrim- you didn't make a guess; which theonomist, neo-Cal, evangelical or emergent could it be? It sounds contemporary to me. Although not many outside the Reformed camp speak of civic righteousness. That leads me to believe it may be a neo-Cal. Could it be Dooyewaard, Klosterman, Wolters or some other neo-Cal I cannot think of at this moment?
January 17, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Yeazel
Pat Robertson
January 18, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterNeal P.
I cheated, so I won't post an answer. Some of you are close, though. :-) Had I guessed, I would have been completely wrong.
January 18, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRob French
Woodrow Wilson
January 19, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterAna Bap
A Calvinist of some sort. The only place I've seen the phrase "civic righteousness" is, in those circles, talking about how the Bible can refer to l someone as "righteous" who isn't.

The language strikes me as not current.
January 19, 2011 | Unregistered Commenter"lee n. field"
Republican Party - 1992 Convention - Platform Committee
January 19, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterWill
Platinga, Woltersdorf, Bartholomew, Goheen, Stob- someone from Calvin College the hub of Neo-Calism. I sat under a Neo-Cal perspective from 1990-1994 at Calvin College. I absorbed a lot of it which has made it a slow process to try to understand the 2K and Natural Law perspective.
January 19, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Yeazel

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