Tuesday
Mar112014
End Times Smack Down! The Third Eagle Takes on John Hagee!!!!
Tuesday, March 11, 2014 at 05:00PM If you watch this, please understand in advance, this will consume fifteen minutes of your life which you can never get back. On the other hand, it is entertaining (if these prophecy pundit types fascinate you), and it certainly provides a lesson in how not to understand biblical eschatology. (h.t. Robin)
Reader Comments (17)
How true. I can't help but wonder if John Hagee has watched this. Maybe he'll respond in kind. Then we'll have something we really shouldn't watch, but which will present irresistible temptation to do so.
The speaker on the video is the Third Eagle of the Apocalypse. What is your apocalyptic nom the guerre? Are you the Fifth Horseman or what? Without such a sobriquet how can we take the Man of Sin and A Case for Amillenialism seriously?
John Hagee has nothing on Tapley. (He doesn't have a hit End-Times theme-song like Tapley!)
Here is Third Eagle's piece on the Anti-Christ revealing himself in a Cadillac commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBh3hV11H68&list=UUau23h1uU0VjL7uGR3We2Dg
He states here that the producers of the commercial are using biblical numerology to announce the "man of sin". A reminder - William Tapley is completely serious.
Not to spoil things, if you hang in there and watch the entire video, you will learn what Jesus uses to defeat the Anti-Christ. (Wearing your tin foil pyramid hats will help minimize brain damage.)
You're right, Pastor Kim, we should never underestimate the attraction of Rome. :|
Just Three Questions:
1) Isn't this the "Third Eagle and Co-Prophet of the End Times" who believes that the Antichrist will be defeated in the tribulation by the combined efforts of the little old ladies in the Rosary Societies around the world clacking their beads at him?
2) Whatever happened to the First and Second Eagles?
3) Who is William Tapley the Co-Prophet with?
Perfectly stated.
You missed one on the previous page. Putin's driving you guys nuts!
Unless you use your real name in future posts, they will be immediately deleted.
Two things you have missed. First, I repeatedly state I was born and raised a dispensationalist, I and I consistently refer to dispensationalists as Christians and "our friends."
Second, I consistently make a distinction between the "prophecy pundits" (which includes people--not necessarily dispensationalists--who read the Bible through the lens of current events and then attempt to dazzle us with their predictions) and dispensational Bible scholars along the lines of Walvoord, Pentecost, etc., who I respect but with whom I disagree.
You need to listen closely and read more carefully. I would suggest to you that you not take the weaknesses (and critiques) of dispensationalism personally, or as a matter of intelligence. I suggest that you stop reacting emotionally to amillennial arguments, and actually look at the biblical evidence for them.
I cannot speak to what a Reformed Baptist church does or does not do about allowing dispensationalists to be members, but since Christ Reformed Church (as a congregation in the URCNA) confesses the "Three Forms of Unity" as summarizing that doctrine found in Holy Scripture, you would have to renounce many of your dispensational views about law and gospel, covenants, sacraments, etc., to be able to confess what we regard to be the biblical faith, and then join our church (with like minded brothers and sisters who confess a common faith in unity).
If you want unity in the church, don't try to join one with different doctrine than you hold.
I can attest to the fact that Dr. Riddlebarger does call Dispensationalists his "friends". I have listened to his many mp3s and it's clear that he is being genuine. And why not call Hagee, LaHaye Dispensationalists? That is what they are and they proudly wear the moniker. Perhaps you should rebuke Jack Van Impe for calling Amillennialism the "greatest heresy".
A person can believe in a Rapture and a Tribulation and not hold to the "heresies" that you guys try to include in that belief, and the Dispensational Label means something different to just about everybody I have heard try to explain it. I have listed to Dick Mayhue's, Matt Waymeyer's lectures on the huge problems that exist within Coventalism and Ammilenialism and realize all three Systems probably contain quite a bit of error. The reality is Kim, 99% of the church have no idea who Walvoord, Pentecost, Feinberg etc are. But do know you and Lahaye, you are making your name attacking the Charlatans and not doing a whole lot of interaction with the true biblical scholars. Calvin said EVERY theologian has error in his theology, frankly speaking, I am not hearing any sense of humility from you. You use humor to attack people and laugh about it, I mentioned you and Horton to my Pastor the other day who is a younger (35 ish) Reformed Baptist (Amil, Covental) and he stated right off without prompting from me that you and Horton have promoted more disunity in the Church over this issue, than any others that come to mind.
I don't know you. You do not know me. You have posted anonymously here under the name "Zechariah" for years, always complaining about unfair treatment, taking cheap shots, and then whining about the responses you get. Why should I even bother to reply?
I don't owe much of anything to someone whom I only encounter through the occasional drive-by snarky comments you leave here. Grant, frankly, I've got much more important things to do than worry about the lectures you've listened too, and how you sense a lack of humility. If my elders and congregation felt that way (you know, the people who actually know me), then it would matter. But from you, it really doesn't. It is pretty obvious from your posts that you've never listened to or read the stuff you complain about. I've already invested too much time in this reply
I'll let our twenty-five tear track record on the White Horse Inn of uniting confessional Lutherans, Calvinistic Baptists, and Reformed Christians, speak for itself.
I will try to ignore the subtle attack on my character about joining the Church who holds to different beliefs than I do - the truth is the Church was a 1789 Confessional Church, to which I largely hold to, so I had no doctrinal differences with them. The folks I am referring to at this Church were from an ARBCA church in La Mirada who have been empowered by the Waldron/Riddlebarger/Horton/Wilkin camp.
Your tactics are eerily similar to how Chuck Smith empowered all the Calvinist Hating Arminians we are so familiar with.
I also expected such a response from you (to Grant).
And I thank you for many years of great White Horse Inn episodes, excellent books and solid, efficacious Biblical teaching.