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Tuesday
Nov142006

The Purpose-Driven Middle-East Peace Plan

Warren in Syria.jpgHere's the lastest from Orange County's own Rick Warren.  You won't believe it--well, maybe you will.

According to the Syrian News Agency (notice the headline--Click here: American Priest Says no Peace without Syria SANA , Syria) . . .

"American Protestant Pastor Rick Warren on Monday said there was no peace in the region without Syria, noting that 80 percent of the American people rejected what the US Administration is doing in Iraq and considered the US policy in the Mideast as wrong. 

Syria’s Grand Mufti Sheikh Badr al-Din Hassoun received the American Pastor in Damascus in which he referred to the importance of spreading culture of amity, peace and coexistence instead of the 'clash of civilizations'.

The Mufti called for conveying the real image of Syria, national unity and its call to spread peace, amity and justice to the American people which the US administration has distorted their image before the world.

Pastor Warren expressed admiration of Syria and the coexistence he saw between Muslims and Christians, stressing that he will convey this image to his church and country."

Lets assume that Warren is quoted correctly (he may not have been in an Islamic state-run newspaper).  80% of Americans oppose the war in Iraq?  American foreign policy in the Middle East is wrong?  Syria is a model for Islamic-Christian co-existence? 

Aside from the legitimate differences that American Christians have over the war in Iraq, my question is simply "when did Rick Warren become Secretary of State?"  Or is he acting as Billy Graham's replacement--the "official" evangelical spokesman?  Or (allowing for the obvious confusion of the two kingdoms) is he attempting to be both?

Your thoughts?

Reader Comments (24)

Fact is stranger than fiction.
November 14, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kurschner
Clash of civilizations? What clash of civilizations? There's no clash of civilizations to be found in south Orange County, so there must not be one happening. There's no persecution in south Orange County, so there must be none going on elsewhere. He reminds me of how Billy Graham went to the USSR, got shown everything they thought he should see, and then reported that there was no persecution of Christians in the USSR.
November 14, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterwalt
Rev. Warren should listen to the recent WHI programs on Islam.
November 14, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterToltec
Toltec,

Perhaps we could mail him a few MP3s?
November 14, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterwalt
Humph! Ricky's head has grown as big as all outdoors! Who does he think he is--preening himself as the Evangelical Pope, while seeking to become the new Ambassador to Syria???

How dare he presume to speak on behalf of the church and of the U.S. government and its citizens!

Muslims of the world, beware! You've no idea who you're dealing with...
November 14, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRon
Send that Brian McLaren guy over.
November 14, 2006 | Unregistered Commenter"lee n. field"
This report coincides with Warren's new teaching on Christian humility: The R.I.C.K. plan: Remember others first; Imitate Christ; Create opportunities for service; and Keep your ego in check.

http://www.sacredsandwich.com/headline20.htm

November 14, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRobin
Ugh. As if Ted's capers weren't enough...

Could you invite Rick over for a little education on Islam (and on history)? For that matter, America in general needs to study history again. Redemptive history, not P.C. fiction.
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterstayathomemom
i guess in a country in which a guy like george can cash in on political royalty buy a presidency, a guy like rick can write a book about stuff everyone wants to hear and may thus pontificate and ambassadorize (no, that is not a real word, just a bushism).

come on, is anyone really surprised?

zrim
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterzrim
This is yet another sad example of a prominent Evangelical who feels the need to comment on every issue under the sun. Could you imagine John describing the Roman Empire as a time of peaceful co-existence between Christians the the pagans? Give me a break. Let's hope that people in Warren's church wake up to the fact of what he is, a theologically weak and politically confused pastor who is trying to do too much and doing none of it very well.
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered Commentermholst
Maybe Rick is giving those folks in Syria a pile of his Invitation's on how to become a follower of Christ? Just make sure Jesus Christ is given another title instead of LORD. Maybe "boss," "manager," "director," "president," "the CEO," "the Chairman of the Board," "the one in charge," instead? Less offensive than LORD? And do not concentrate on the fear of God, the purity and holiness of God, the righteousness of God, the awesomeness of God, the wrath of God, the exceedingly sinfulness of sin, the awful transgression of God's laws, the brutal crucifixion of our LORD Jesus Christ and the shedding of his innocent blood, the wicked being cast into the lake of fire on Judgment Day, people like the 9/11 terrorists for an example, true full-orbed biblical repentance, downplay or ignore those aspects of the gospel when talking to the Syrians. Make sure God is all lovey dovey and not much else and that he created everyone to love them so that know they is very special critters? Just be upbeat and positive, God has a purpose for your life. Help Iran "nuke" Israel? Wipe Israel off the map?

How to become a follower of Christ
by Rick Warren
http://theinvitation.tv/

Easy believism. Just "believe and receive" then you will be born of the will of God, instead, those who are born of the will of God first are those who receive and believe on the LORD Jesus Christ. Regeneration precedes faith, Mr. Warren.

I transcribed the audio from the video, if anyone wants a copy I am more than happy to email it or post it.
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterDouglas
Sounds like you have a bias. You have called SANA an islamic newspaper, when in reality they are a state run paper. Syria is far from being an Islamic state. They do have majority of Muslims but they do not enforce sharia law. Also Christians find it safer in Syria. A lot of Christians are fleeing Iraq (after we made a mess there) and going to Syria where they are much safer.

I do not think Rick Warren has claimed to be a replacement for Billy Graham or for USA. You might be reading too much into what he said.

Also i have found that the on the average Christians are confused between the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of USA. Christians are more insterested in us as Americans being secure than sharing the Gospel with our enemies for the sake of the Kingdom of God. So where do you think the Christian's heart should be, for the Kingdom of God or for the Kingdom of USA?
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMrErr
I'll start out by saying that I am not a fan of Rick Warren, by any stretch. That said, I find equally vexing the general attitude of evangelicals, and reformed Christians toward the "Islamic world" however it's defined or ill-defined.

The attitude seems to be that all Muslims are by definition our enemies, and it seems we fail to see that we too were once enemies of God and that it was through his grace and mercy that we've been reconciled to him.

We as Christians ought to love our enemies and be concerned about their eternal destiny, whether it's the pope, the grand mufti of Syria, or the rabbi next door, and all those who follow them.

Although I wish it was one of our reformed leaders who met with the Mufti, I would rather have Rick Warren meet with the mufti than have no one whatsoever from the Christian community attempt to reach the lost in the middle east, and be left with the empty and dangerous rhetoric of an "us against them" mentality.

aL
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAlbert
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."
--- Jesus (Matt. 10:34-39)
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRobin
He's trying to replace Pat Robertson as Secretary of State. So far, he's better. He hasn't called for any assassinations yet.
November 15, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterturmeric
Could Rick be the antichrist?? His new plan is terrible. Who asked him to step in and talk for the church. I for one know many people who don't like war but understand it is necessary.

November 15, 2006 | Unregistered Commentertiminator
Everyone call the church and complain: 949 609 8000. He's possibly guilty of treason.
November 16, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterwalt
The punch-line at the bottom of Rick's long (tap dance) letter to Saddlebackers is telling:

"I love you all and I'm praying for this weekend's FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OFFERING. I'm excited about getting back home to see you!"

Pastor Rick

Cha-ching! $$$ Damage control is expensive!

Dogbert: "Out! You demons of studpidity!"



November 16, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRobin
....and you demons of misspelling, too!

r.
November 16, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRobin

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