Monday
Feb242014
What Do You Get When a Roman Bishop, Pope Francis, and Kenneth Copeland, Do a Conference Together?
Monday, February 24, 2014 at 11:53AM What do you get? A reason to protest! This is about as bizarre as it gets.
As Calvin so aptly put it in his letter to Cardinal Sadoleto, “We are assailed by two sects: the Pope and the Anabaptists.”
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I just read Dr. Al Mohler's latest article about Christian conscience concerning govt. forcing Christian business owners to participate in same-sex "weddings" (i.e., florists, bakers, etc.) . Now I see this about the Catholics and the Charismatics. There is so much strangeness happening so fast. Come quickly, Lord Jesus!!!
Here is a 7 min personal message from the Pope, where he acknowledges his friendship with Tony Palmer.
In the separate video, Kenneth Copeland acknowledges his long relationship with Palmer.
Palmer (at about 7.55) confirms his belief in Word of faith teaching..
The worldwide false church - the Unified Church of Satan - is rapidly taking shape..
It will underpin the New World Order and give it moral backing.
I hear Palmer speak at a church leaders conference at the LEWENDE WOORD pentecostal church in Pretoria, S.Africa, a few years back, delivering this same message of the coming unity with Rome.
He was cheered heartily & enthusiastically by all the representatives of charismatic & pentecostal churches present...
Your opinion doesn't undo the fact that Kenneth is a charismatic. He just happens to embrace word of faith (WOF) teaching and you don't. In light of recent events, it is evident that WOF charismatics and non-WOF charismatics (at least some like Michael Brown, but he does seem to be a bit WOF), do have fellowship in part because of their charismatic similarities. Seeing Mr. Brown smiling while Benny Hinn is promoting Brown's book as a means to raise funds for Hinn's ministry is a bit comical in certain respects.
As a matter of fact, I think historically, there is more of a reason to not include Charismatics/Pentecostals under the category of Protestant than there is reason to not include WOF under Charismatic. Anabaptist held charismatic beliefs, and they were strongly rejected by Protestants, as evidenced by the quote from Calvin in the post.
A room filled with "spirit-filled" people and yet no discernment. Not surprising in light of the track record of charismatics.
I honestly feel compassion for Francis because he upholds wrong doctrine and is leading people into more error by embracing these people. It would be wonderful if Francis were to receive with the empty hands of faith the free gift of God. All those evangelicals that know or knew him and affirmed him in his Romanists beliefs and did not seek to correct him have committed an immensely great evil. May God grant them repentance.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2014/02/tony-palmer-the-new-face-of-anglicanism.html
Yes , some of those in the Charismatic camp have taught error and some of those in non-charismatic camps have jumped overboard with error.
The Church must stay rooted in Scripture and there will be differences on minor issues, but on major doctrine, the Church must not reject.
Just follow the money . . .after all this is the present evil age!
Selah
Bringing MacArthur into the picture is a red herring for the purposes of this post. Not only that, who is saying that there are no cessationist (however defined or nuanced) who have not preached falsely or done wrong?
I'll go further. If your defense is to bring up MacArthur, then it is a bad defense, and you are certainly going to someone who has been opposed in writing by Reformed ministers. One such example is Dr. Riddlebarger, who soberly and kindly touched upon some bad comments given by MacArthur concerning eschatology. Also, Michael Horton has touched upon the Wesleyan views found in MacArthur in a Westiminster Seminary podcast with R. Scott Clark from around 4 months ago; the podcasts was on the Lordship controversy.
As to track record, I think of some of the best examples and their lack of discernment; people like Wayne Grudem. Grudem's dedication in his systematic theology refers to unbiblical people, Harald Bredesen and John Wimber. Now I knew who Bredesen was, and he was the kind of man who supported Kathryn Kuhlman and Benny Hinn; he also ordained someone I know. As for Wimber, I don't know as much about him except that even many sane charismatics say he is bad news; I also know that he left the Calvary Chapel types because they were a bit to moderate for him concerning charismatic beliefs. Grudem refers to these two as being the two who taught him the most about the power and work of the Holy Spirit.
The Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition Bible page 121 making withdraws from your heavenly account!!. yet they ask for offerings every Friday on BVOV.
JESSE DUPLANTIS in April 2008 at Keith Moore faith life church Branson, asking for $300,000 at the meeting from the people to get a airplane inspection.
Mark T Barclay May 2013 " PARTNER" LETTER Asking for $79,000 to paint plane, Vickie always says their is power in numbers, if 80 people, ministries, or companies "SOW" $1000, It will be taken care of!! again just take it out of your giving to get heavenly account withdraw method, why ask people for money when you can get it from heaven.
Billye Brim on the " Jim Bakker show'' Tuesday October 8 2013- waterfilters, food pails, pills, network marketing, for $500 we will send you this or that. the gospel is turned into a buy & sell commodity, consumerism, books, CDS, DVDS, STARBUCKS COFFEE CHURCHES, Party churches.
Bill Winston 2009 the power of Partnership CDS, HYPING UP PARTNERS to give money to open Covenant Bank, Friday February 15,2013 Bank closed letter from bill says, we made every attempt to raise the additional money, unfortunately, the troubled economic times made it difficult for the people to invest! what happened to ruling the earth, 4th DIMENSION teaching .
David Yongee Cho Feb 21,2014 convicted of fraud, jail, all the word of faith, and emergent churches follow him, occult visualization techniques, eastern mysticism, claiming Buddhist and Hindus have known this formula for centuries.
so it is no wonder he wants to follow jezebels church, REV 2:18-23,GEN 10:8,9 Jeremiah 44,Rev 17 Copeland stated once, when it comes to the book of revelation, he is a fish out of water, so he must bring in other teachers to learn from!! yet he never asks Jacob Prasch, roger Oakland, or mike Gendron who have a solid biblical understanding of this, on his show, only WOF.
NOTICE all the word of faith teachers that use the New age bible, written by New ager Eugene Peterson THE MESSAGE Bible, all promoting New age mixed with so-called Christianity word of faith error.