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Nov262007

Just How Bad Is John Hagee's Theology?

John%20Hagee%202.jpgIt is hardly breaking news that Hagee's got some weird hyper-dispensational ideas about Israel and that he's become very active in certain political circles.  But what about these comments?

"Jesus did not come to be the Messiah"

Jesus was killed as part of a "Calvary Conspiracy"

Jesus "did not claim to be the Messiah"

Check it out for yourself, Click here: John Hagee Jesus NOT Messiah(audio|video perfect)

All of this nonsense so as to sell his book, "In Defense of Israel."  

Reader Comments (19)

Hagee's (or a press minion of his) has a statement out. Mike Corley's got it here: http://theexpositor.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/john-hagee-responds-to-controversy/ .

Sounds like spin to me. I think Hagee said exactly what he intended to say, the first time around, and neither he nor anyone around him thought it sounded strange.

I have seen some dispensationalists repudiate Hagee's statement, which is good. Nevertheless, that's the kind of thing I'm nor surprised to see come from that camp.
November 26, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterlee n. field
This explains his nonsense:

http://www.pfo.org/jonhagee.htm
November 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kurschner
Wow! Hagee, an antichrist! Watching Hagee and Hinn was reminiscent of Oral Roberts defending that "young prophet in Charlotte" in 1987, Jim "we can fake it" Bakker. Hagee's spin doctor certainly helped, didn't he? Do they know that Jesus was raised from the dead, i.e., He didn't stay dead? You have to live to be the Messiah? Wow!!!
November 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJohnny T. Helms
What is really sad is to see his book prominently listed in all mainstream Christian book stores. But then when was the last time they have shown any discernment or integrity when it comes to sound teaching and doctrine. Perhaps even more tragic is how many buy into this heresy!!
November 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterReg Schofield
How about having him on the white horse inn to discuss his book? It would be better than the schuller interview.
November 27, 2007 | Unregistered Commentermatthew
Greetings Kim,

Perhaps Mr. Hagee "saw the light" and is in the process of acquiring a new respect for the truth? Want some clarifying data from an unexpected source?

Patience and humility...

If you'd like some stunning insights into what's happening with the synchronicity of the recent comet and Nostradamus' Lost Book buzz, then read the article at my link above. I demonstrate significant internal evidence from these Lost Book images that they were indeed dictated by Nostradamus and that they encode much more earthshaking revelations than so far published.

Peace...
November 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSeven Star Hand
How bad is Hagee's theology?

It's soooo bad, that . . .

. . . it's subject ("fluid" like Finney's?) to his commitment to doing pr for the modern nation of Israel because Genesis 12:3 makes him fear any and all criticism of "God's chosen people," national, unbelieving Israel. That's why he feels they need "defending."

I also seriously think his motive is to undue all the anti-semitic baggage exhibited through the centuries on the part of Roman Catholics and others against the so-called "Christ-killers."

Ideals such as these seem to take priority to sound biblical theology. But with folks like Hagee, if it wasn't this topic, it'd be some other topic.
November 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJohn D. Chitty
Hebrews 6, anyone?
November 27, 2007 | Unregistered Commentermholst
Are we surprised? This is the logical conclusion of his theology. Dispensationalism at it's finest.
November 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChris Sherman
Matthew's idea has merit. However, Hagee would never debate those whom he believes are "heretics." Unless of course they threw some cash at him..then he would probably agree.
November 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles S.
I work for Scripturetruth.com, a Christian bookstore that has been in business for over 50 years. It is a family run business and the family holds to Dispensational theology. However, they refuse to sell any books by John Haggee. BTW, Gen. leather Scofield Bibles are on sale for 29.95 this month just in case you need a copy. : )

Chris Griffith
November 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChris Griffith
Kim,

In light of Hagee's recent book and denials re: Jesus being the Messiah ... and in light of I Jn. 2:22,23 ... are you considering changing your conclusions re: the ID of the antichrist in "The Man of Sin?"

Just kidding!

Nevertheless, how anyone can deny that Jesus is God's Anointed in light of Mt. 1:1,16; 16:15-17; Jn. 1:41; 4:25; 11:27; 20:31; Acts 9:22; 17:1-3; 18:5; etc. is downright mind-boggling and distressing.

Talk about attacking what's at the core of our Christian faith!

Of course I have no reason to believe that the scads of Hagee followers will finally see the light, even in light of this "Hagee heresy."
November 28, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterWayne Rohde
I have read many comments/reviews regarding John Hagee’s new book “In Defense of Israel”, but I must admit I have not read the book myself. I would first ask that all Holy Spirit filled believers pray in the spirit that we deny the evil one the opportunity to use Pastor Hagee’s book, his defense of it, or our comments in any way to hinder the preaching of the gospel, nor cause any to fall from grace. As brothers and sisters in Christ we have an obligation to test and try the spirits before we accept the teaching. The apostle John was very clear that the spirit of antichrist and the mystery of iniquity was already beginning to manifest itself even in such a short time after our Lord’s triumph on Calvary. I have tried to discern spiritually and intellectually the difference between Pastor Hagee’s definition of Christ and Messiah. I have always taught and been taught that the difference between the two is largely that one has been rendered in Greek and the other in Hebrew. I have come to appreciate that the inference of how one uses the terms can mean a lot. I also believe that a non-Jewish Christian and a Jewish Christian may provide considerable opportunity and amusement to the evil one as he, the evil one, twists the meaning and words for maximum effect with each “fiery dart” are launched. So I can somewhat accept Pastor Hagee’s approach to define the difference using the Word of God concerning his perceived differences between the meaning and the roles of Christ and Messiah. After all it is probably fair to say that we should admit that we should say Jesus the Christ rather than Jesus Christ. One infers that Jesus is the Christ and to most western Christians, the other looks like Jesus had the last name of Christ. Please do not crucify me for attempting to apply this inept analogy to the problem at hand.

Pastor Hagee states, “Again, you must live to be Messiah. You cannot be both Messiah and Savior”. Pastor Hagee please accept the following request for clarification in the spirit of love as it is given. Our Lord died on the cross as our savior, the Lamb of God. He did however rise from the dead to assume his rightful position as our King. Our spirits cry out “He has risen, He has risen” because he lives so that we would know that he is the Christ, the Messiah, not so we could believe that he is. He that denies that Jesus is the Christ is antichrist.

I share the same fervent feelings about Israel that you do. But he that denies that Jesus is the Christ cannot enter into the pardon and therefore cannot be saved. His death burial and resurrection as the Son of God, the Christ, and the Messiah is the gospel.

I think perhaps if you were to publically state that you believe that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God and that he was crucified on the cross for our sins, and was raised from the dead to sit at the right hand of God as our King, that the cries of blasphemy might subside into a more calm examination of what your were trying to say versus what many heard.

Once again I pray that you will accept that I have written this in a spirit of love, one brother to another, hoping that all of us will worship our Lord in spirit and truth, always striving to eliminate false doctrine and divisions. We have such a short time left we must fight the enemy not each other. In Jesus Christ’s name, by his authority and under his blood. Amen

November 29, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRThomas
The same veil that is over the eyes of the Jews must be over John Hagee's eyes as well.
November 29, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJust thinking
The evil one's most sucessful deceptions are when he puts on the guise of an angel of light and makes you think that you are doing God's will. This type of deception has caused virtually every rift between those claiming to be Christians.

Without the indwelling Holy Spirit and a big ear coupled with tremendous focus it is easy to miss that quiet little voice telling you the truth.

Once we walk the gospel path we suddenly are exposed to a spiritual world filled with spiritual beings that do not need to sleep and have lived long enough to study us from birth.They do not need to eat nor are they distracted by the flesh.

If we do not put on our spiritual armor daily we will stumble and fall many times daily and perhaps, God forbid, fall into rebellion.

Thank God for grace and mercy and the greatest gift of all, the Lamb of God's innocent blood that paid the price for our sins.

Pastors, teachers .... come up on the evil one's radar screen quicker than most. It is easy to judge,it is more difficult to stand in the gap for another, through prayer and other forms of spiritual warfare. Our nature is to focus on those that appear to be leading, sometimes leadership is demonstrated at 2 in the morning in your own bed, when no one but you knows that you are engaged in spiritual fight for someone like Pastor John Hagee who might be deceived.

I'm trying hard to not preach a sermon but as we approach the day of our redemption and our King's return we are also approching the end of the evil one's reign. He is not giving up easy and even though we've read the ending of this story and know who wins, many have not. If we are saved and die for our Lord battling the enemy, there is reward for us, but think of the sadness that we will feel when we see so many loved ones perish because there wasn't enough warriors in the battle. I would derive great joy removing the deception and saving a soul rather than being right.

Behind every deceived soul is the evil one with his hand on the veil.

May the God of glory bless you.
November 29, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRThomas
The nature of genuine love cannot allow such errors as this to go unmentioned. As such, it is not a matter of being right, for only God is right, but in my estimation has a two fold intention. First of pointing out the error so that the one who has made it may repent. and second that others may be made aware so that they may not stumble into the same folly.

from 2 Timothy,
And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.


SDG

-Chris
November 30, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChris Sherman
Very aptly put. Chapter 13 1 Corinthians defines the nature of the love that we must show each other,Galations 6:1 defines the way

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Paul' letter to Timothy further defines how we should go about this process by saying

1Ti 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
1Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.


I chose to challenge this teaching in public forums because of the number of witnesses, knowing fully well that a large number of Bible believing witnesses would keep this process "in the spirit".

Even after all of Saul's sins not the least of which were the visit to the Witch of Endor, and pursuit of God's annointed King. David would not permit a lack of respect to be shown to Saul.

Chris,I sense that your words come from a loving spirit. The Holy Spirit, when given the chance, will tell us how to go about this correctly. Only he can determine what motivates our actions.Self-examination is very prone to self-deception.

Thank you for you wise but humble comment.

In Jesus Christ, by his authority and under his blood.

Amen.
November 30, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRThomas
They having a zeal of God but not according to knowledge."
well Mr.Haggee is trying to please man and he should know better but seems to be blinded by his own glory,vain glory at that,whenever you mix politics and religion you have harlotry,and that is the price you pay. They have been warned "Woe unto you pastors who have muddied the waters and now my people can't drink." The pure water of the Truth that Jesus Christ has shed His Blood for is now being dragged through the mud, not only did Mr.haggee deny Jesus as Messiah he also said Jesus himself di not calaim to be Messiah,I guess its that time for those that say they could see are made blind for Jesus himself on more than one ocasion very directly such as the woman at the well when she spoke of the Messiah Jesus said I who speak to ypu am he.
And what about when Peter when he stated "Thou art the Christ the Son of the Living God!. and many more.
And why should a man from the pulpit say that America should bomb Iran? unbelievable but then I saw it comming when you mix Church and sate you will fail the gospel of our Lord and saviour.
I pray for you all who read understand what I am saying,I am not saying you should not vote or gey invovled but the pulpit should not be used for political wranggling. It is obvious that Jesus first had to fullfill the Priesthood then His return The Kingship amen.
Now back to haggee's claim that Jews do not need Jesus, is allowing them the Jews to go through great tribulation and what about Jews for Jesus are they abnormal and what about the book to the Hebrews, "There remaineth no more sacrifice " This same Jesus whaom you crucified we are told in scripture and not some Roman plot as Haggee claims,of coarse Jesus forgave them from the cross saying "Father forgive them for they know not what they do."
May 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterL Lancia

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