Who Said That?

Who Said That?

"Don't pray no stupid prayers"

I'm giving you an easy one this time!  Hint--repeat the quote with a drawl.  Leave your answer in the comments section.  But try and guess who this is before looking at the comments.  No cheating or google searches.

Update on Monday, October 16, 2006 at 01:26PM by Kim Riddlebarger

This stellar quote is from theologian-grammarian Joyce Meyer.  It was featured on a recent White Horse Inn broadcast

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"After we have proved that the people of flying saucers are none other than demons in human form, and that flying saucers are the flying riding beast or donkey of the Antichrist, which demons made for him to enable him to gain control over the people of the earth, now we need to recognize the goals of the study and the experiment that the demons perform upon human beings and animals in flying saucers.  We will relate these goals to the tribulations and the miracles that the Antichrist will bring to humanity."

You know how this works!  No cheating or google searches!  Leave your answer in the comments section.

Update on Monday, October 9, 2006 at 03:19PM by Kim Riddlebarger

Believe it or not, this quote is from a very popular Muslim apocalyptic writer (H. 'Abad al-Hamid) who penned these words in 1996.  The translation is found in David Cook's excellent book, Contemporary Muslim Apocalyptic Literature (Syracuse University Press, 2005), 81.  Cook documents how Muslim writers are now appealing to biblical texts (from Revelation, Daniel, and Ezekiel) to craft bizarre schemes to explain the rise of Israel and the great Satan (America).  Some of this stuff is pretty scary.

It just goes to show you that apocalyptic speculation can get pretty loopy whether it comes from a Muslim or an evangelical.

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Who Said That?

"My ex-wife is the Antichrist's sister"

Have fun with this one!  No cheating, no google searches.  Leave your answer in the comments section.

Update on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 at 08:47AM by Kim Riddlebarger

This gem came from that TV Evangelist who is not a TV Evangelist, Gene Scott.  He was in the middle of a rant about his ex, who had given an interview to the LA Times about the Scott's former marriage.  This was back in the days when the FCC was threatening to take away Scott's broadcast license.  He called his ex the Antichrist's sister and then launched into a tirade the likes of which I have never seen and which I cannot repeat.

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Who Said That?

"There is absolutely no question that God's hedge of protection was lifted from America.  September 11 was a curse on our beloved nation, but worse is the fact that most Americans don't understand why it happened . . . . America is in this position primarily because we are the only nation today in alliance with both the historical brothers of prophecy--Ishmael and Isaac . . . . America has married these two brothers:  Ishmael (the Arab nations) out of convenience and Isaac (Israel) out of guilt. . . . America is under a biblical curse that can be reversed.  Jerusalem is the final compromise.  If America divides Jerusalem, there will be no forgiveness.  America will tragically end up on the ash heap of history."

As usual, no cheating (google searches).  Please your guess in the comments section below. 

Update on Thursday, September 28, 2006 at 08:39AM by Kim Riddlebarger

As some of you guessed, these words come from the opening chapter of Michael Evans' best-seller, The American Prophecies.  But they could have come from Hagee and some of the others that you mentioned. 

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"There is one fact which is itself conclusive against this doctrine of imputation.  It is the fact that the salvation in Christ, both as a present attainment and a future blessedness, has its complete ground in his vicarious sacrifice.  A brief statement of facts will show this.  Herein we have reconciliation with God; the forgiveness of sin; justification; righteousness; regeneration and a new spiritual life; adoption and heirship; [readiness] for heaven and the possession of a future blessedness.  Thus it is that all the blessings of a complete salvation are grounded in the vicarious sacrifice of Christ.  Hence there is no place for the imputation of his personal righteousness, and no need of it.  Indeed, it is excluded."

You know the drill!  No cheating (google searches or otherwise).  Leave your answer in the comments section below!

Update on Thursday, September 21, 2006 at 03:14PM by Kim Riddlebarger

This was a tough one . . .  Too many of you have been guessing correctly (or using google searches).  I need to stretch you all once in a while. 

The quote comes from John Miley's Systematic Theology (1894) Vol.II,317.  Miley produced the Methodist equivalent of Hodge's Systematic Theology.  Warfield thought Miley was an excellent theologian because Miley was willing to go where his Arminianism took him.  He not only denied imputation, Miley denied that the atonement was a real satisfaction for sin.  Furthermore, Miley also taught that salvation was a real synergism.

I cited this particular section from Miley because it could have come from a number of our evangelical and "Reformed" contemporaries, who defend something very much like what Miley and classical Arminians have always taught. 

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"We should give Jesus a demotion. It is no longer credible to think of Jesus as divine. Jesus' divinity goes together with the old theistic way of thinking about God.  The plot early Christians invented for a divine redeemer figure is as archaic as the mythology in which it is framed. A Jesus who drops down out of heaven, performs some magical act that frees human beings from the power of sin, rises from the dead, and returns to heaven is simply no longer credible. The notion that he will return at the end of time and sit in cosmic judgment is equally incredible. We must find a new plot for a more credible Jesus."

You know the drill!  No cheating (google searches or otherwise).  Post your answer in the comments section.

Update on Monday, September 11, 2006 at 02:31PM by Kim Riddlebarger

As some of you guessed, this blasphemous screed came from Robert W. Funk of the Jesus Seminar.  As Raymond Brown (the Roman Catholic New Testament scholar) once quipped, it is time for the Jesus Seminar members to give up their adolescent rebellion against the fundamentalism of their youth and begin to do some serious scholarship.

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"There are in the Bible several clear examples of believers (about whose relationship with God there can be no question) who were, nevertheless, not completely or continually committed to the Lord. . . . Now if Christ must be Lord of the life in order for one to be saved, then we are forced to conclude that either Peter or Baranbas [who had lapses from a fully dedicated life] were never saved or that they lost their salvation when they rejected the Lordship of Christ."

OK, who said this?  No cheating (google searches or otherwise).  Leave your answer in the comments section!

Update on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 at 03:05PM by Kim Riddlebarger

This quote comes from Charles Ryrie, as some of you guessed.

It can be found on pages 170-171 of Balancing the Christian Life (Moody Press, 1969).

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OK, who said this?

"Both the Old and the New Testament speak of a future conversion of Israel, Zech. 12:10; 13:1; II Cor. 3:15,16, and Rom. 11:25-29 seems to connect this with the end of time. Premillennialists have exploited this Scriptural teaching for their particular purpose. They maintain that there will be a national restoration and conversion of Israel, that the Jewish nation will be re-established in the Holy Land, and that this will take place immediately preceding or during the millennial reign of Jesus Christ. It is very doubtful, however, whether Scripture warrants the expectation that Israel will finally be re-established as a nation, and will as a nation turn to the Lord."

As usual, no google searches or cheating!  Leave your guesses in the comments section below!

Update on Saturday, August 5, 2006 at 02:11PM by Kim Riddlebarger

This statement comes from none other than Louis Berkhof (Systematic Theology, 698 ff).  But Herman Bavinck said almost the same thing in Last Things (Grand Rapids:  Baker, 1996), 107.

In light of Berhkof's wrong conclusion, I think it behooves all of us to follow the sage advice of Geerhardus Vos, who reminds us that history/fulfillment is sometimes the best interpreter of certain prophecies, and that eschatology requires a particular kind of interpretive patience (Pauline Eschatology, 133).

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Who Said That?

"In conformity, therefore, both to the doctrine of St. John, and the whole tenor of the New Testament, we fix this conclusion:  A Christian is so far perfect as not to commit sin. 

This is the glorious privilege of every Christian . . . though he be a babe in Christ.  But it is of only grown Christians it can be affirmed they are in such a sense perfect, as, secondly, to be freed from evil thoughts and evil tempers."

Please, no google searches or other forms of cheating.  You must guess who said this!  Leave your answers in the comments section.  I'll let you know who this is in a couple of days.

Update on Monday, July 31, 2006 at 07:15PM by Kim Riddlebarger

As many of you correctly guessed, this is John Wesley, from A Plain Account of Christian Perfection (London:  The Epworth Press, 1976), 42.

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"Those who find their own experience written in the seventh chapter of Romans [i.e. Romans 7:13-25] are not converted persons.  If that is their habitual character, they are not regenerated, they are under conviction, but not Christians . . . . You see, from this subject, the true position of a vast number of church members.  They are all the time struggling under the law.  They approve of the law, both in its precept and its penalty, they feel condemned, and desire relief.  But still they are unhappy.  They have no Spirit of prayer, no communion with God, no evidence of adoption.  They only refer to the 7th [chapter] of Romans as their evidence.  Such a one will say, `There is my experience.'  Let me tell you, that if this is your experience, you are yet in the gall of bitterness and the bonds of iniquity. . . .  You are yet carnal, sold under sin, and unless you embrace the gospel you will be damned."

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This is awful.  Who is bearer of such glad tidings?

Update on Thursday, July 6, 2006 at 02:09PM by Kim Riddlebarger

I am going to call this one early.  As Phil (who either cheated and google searched, or who was at Keith Green's compound in Texas) pointed out, these horrible words come from Charles Grandison Finney, the patron saint of American evangelicalism.

For those of you who are "disappointed" that I hold the traditional Reformed view (I know it is a shock that a Reformed pastor and theologian would actually hold to the view taught in his confessions, even after reading the arguments on the other side), I'll make my case in my forthcoming blog publication on Romans.  We'll debate the matter then.

FYI--I also discussed this on KFUO today (Thursday, July 6).  Go to KFUO.org.  My discussion with Todd Wilken about Romans 7:14-25 will be archived.