Who Said That?

"There are in the Bible several clear examples of believers (about whose relationship with God there can be no question) who were, nevertheless, not completely or continually committed to the Lord. . . . Now if Christ must be Lord of the life in order for one to be saved, then we are forced to conclude that either Peter or Baranbas [who had lapses from a fully dedicated life] were never saved or that they lost their salvation when they rejected the Lordship of Christ."

OK, who said this?  No cheating (google searches or otherwise).  Leave your answer in the comments section!

Update on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 at 03:05PM by Kim Riddlebarger

This quote comes from Charles Ryrie, as some of you guessed.

It can be found on pages 170-171 of Balancing the Christian Life (Moody Press, 1969).

Comments

[Greg Smith]

Zane Hodges.

[paul]

I agree.. Zane

[R.K.Brumbelow]

Nah it can't be Hodges, he would have said that Paul was a carnal christian or some such nonsense. This does sound like some Nazarine preachers I know today though none of them famous enough to make Dr Riddlebarger's lists.

[lars]

Lewis Sperry Chafer?

[JStewart]

Arlen Chitwood

[T.]

Billy Sunday?

[Tim Etherington]

I'm with Greg, sounds like Zane Hodges.

[Brian Davilla]

gotta be Hodges

[Joel]

Either John MacArthur or Zane Hodges

[travis]

hodges is too obvious. chuck swindoll or charles stanley.

[Mr. Eko]

I'll say Charles Ryrie. This quote seems a little more relaxed then Zane Hodges or Bob Wilkens, the head of the "Free Grace" society (who I once heard say that a person could have a moment of faith and trust Jesus, then convert to another religion, and go around the world as a missionary for that other religion, and in the end still be saved because "once saved, always saved.).

[timinator]

not Macarthur but Hodges may of said this.

[David]

definitely not MacArthur, since he combatted this view - but could very well be Ryrie since he was on the wrong side of the controversy.

[Ron]

It's Zane Hodges. However, if Chafer were still living and had read this quote, he would have suscribed to it.
As for MacArthur, I think he would have been scratching his head in self-debate, had he come across such a proposition twenty-five years ago. [But Jack's had a bit of "training up" since then. . .]

[Tim Etherington]

Not Swindoll. He's Arminian and Dispy, but when you hear him preach Rom 9 you begin to wonder.

Could be Stanley. I heard a radio commercial for his program and the sound bite they used was "God's done everything he can to save you. Now it is up to you." Gach!! Cough!! Choak!!!

Nah, I'm sticking with Hodges.

[Ann]

John MacArthur

[Ann]

Sorry for the second post... btw... I love hearing you on the White Horse Inn. I always listen for your comments. You have been kind of quiet the last month.

[Travis Prinzi]

Swindoll is odd in that way, I agree. He's definitely an "eternal security" kind of guy though. I do think he leans more to the Calvinist side, having read his stuff on Romans 9.

I'm going to stick with Stanley, I think. I recall reading his book on eternal security in which he compared "getting saved" to getting a tattoo. Once you've got it, it's there, even if you don't want it from immediately after the moment it was received.

Yikes.

[Jeff Rolfe]

No way this is MacArhtur, I'll go with Charles Stanley.

[Jeff Rolfe]

R.T. Kendall and Luis Palau are two other names that come to mind as well.