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Who Said That?

question mark.jpg"There are in the Bible several clear examples of believers (about whose relationship with God there can be no question) who were, nevertheless, not completely or continually committed to the Lord. . . . Now if Christ must be Lord of the life in order for one to be saved, then we are forced to conclude that either Peter or Baranbas [who had lapses from a fully dedicated life] were never saved or that they lost their salvation when they rejected the Lordship of Christ."

OK, who said this?  No cheating (google searches or otherwise).  Leave your answer in the comments section!

Reader Comments (22)

Zane Hodges.
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterGreg Smith
I agree.. Zane
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterpaul
Nah it can't be Hodges, he would have said that Paul was a carnal christian or some such nonsense. This does sound like some Nazarine preachers I know today though none of them famous enough to make Dr Riddlebarger's lists.
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterR.K.Brumbelow
Lewis Sperry Chafer?
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterlars
Arlen Chitwood
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJStewart
Billy Sunday?
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterT.
I'm with Greg, sounds like Zane Hodges.
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim Etherington
gotta be Hodges
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterBrian Davilla
Either John MacArthur or Zane Hodges
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJoel
hodges is too obvious. chuck swindoll or charles stanley.
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered Commentertravis
I'll say Charles Ryrie. This quote seems a little more relaxed then Zane Hodges or Bob Wilkens, the head of the "Free Grace" society (who I once heard say that a person could have a moment of faith and trust Jesus, then convert to another religion, and go around the world as a missionary for that other religion, and in the end still be saved because "once saved, always saved.).
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Eko
not Macarthur but Hodges may of said this.
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered Commentertiminator
definitely not MacArthur, since he combatted this view - but could very well be Ryrie since he was on the wrong side of the controversy.
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterDavid
It's Zane Hodges. However, if Chafer were still living and had read this quote, he would have suscribed to it.
As for MacArthur, I think he would have been scratching his head in self-debate, had he come across such a proposition twenty-five years ago. [But Jack's had a bit of "training up" since then. . .]
August 21, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRon
Not Swindoll. He's Arminian and Dispy, but when you hear him preach Rom 9 you begin to wonder.

Could be Stanley. I heard a radio commercial for his program and the sound bite they used was "God's done everything he can to save you. Now it is up to you." Gach!! Cough!! Choak!!!

Nah, I'm sticking with Hodges.
August 22, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim Etherington
John MacArthur
August 22, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAnn
Sorry for the second post... btw... I love hearing you on the White Horse Inn. I always listen for your comments. You have been kind of quiet the last month.
August 22, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAnn
Swindoll is odd in that way, I agree. He's definitely an "eternal security" kind of guy though. I do think he leans more to the Calvinist side, having read his stuff on Romans 9.

I'm going to stick with Stanley, I think. I recall reading his book on eternal security in which he compared "getting saved" to getting a tattoo. Once you've got it, it's there, even if you don't want it from immediately after the moment it was received.

August 22, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTravis Prinzi
No way this is MacArhtur, I'll go with Charles Stanley.
August 22, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJeff Rolfe
R.T. Kendall and Luis Palau are two other names that come to mind as well.
August 22, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJeff Rolfe

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